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In the 1972 BBC television project “Ways of Seeing” John Berger argues that female nude portrayed in Renaissance painting is constructed to please and satisfy men, rather than representing freedom and nature, and same argument can be used in the representation of women today as well. Nowadays, everyone can easily post, view, and comment any images through media. It may seem as if people are posting the pictures of their everyday life without thinking anything, to show the natural beauty, yet in reality most of the pictures are constructed the same way renaissance paintings are. When a woman wants to post a photo of herself, she doesn’t simply take one photo on her phone and post it. She has to wear a make up, set up her hair, wear trending clothes, even set up the objects around her properly. After setting up everything, now she has to take many photos, with different poses and from different angles. From there she carefully looks at each photos and choose the best one, and she can finally post one picture after all these effort. Of course, not all women goes through all those steps and efforts, but when they do they tend to get more positive reactions or comments because that is the ideal images that satisfy the viewers. Women nowadays still do not have much control over their images in the media because she has to think about what people want to see, what kind of pictures would please the viewers, typically men, or no one will be interested in her.

what women’s see then man?

As there are different ways to see a picture. When man look at the pic they see pic as how every women’s are, but from women’s perspective it is not the way they really are. They think of it as not themselves and isn’t showing every women as they are. I think it is true that women’s have different ways to express themselves with their looks, though I’m not saying man doesn’t. Women’s cares deeply of their image and how they are seen by others.

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I feel like representations of women today objectify them in the same way as what Berger argues about women depicted in Renaissance paintings because it’s true what he stated. Whenever a female takes a provocative photos she always seeks something after, whether it is a like under the photo or a compliment. I personally feel like women doesn’t have control over their images in the media and are they still determined by the male gaze. If a women posts a photo with intentions of just boosting her self confidence, the male in her comments would change that. So instead of her posting it for her liking, she’s posting it to be judge by men who view it. Sexuality can sometimes play a role in women’s photo but often times it is men who are the majority critics. what Berger was focusing on is still very true. Women’s photos are  still very male-driven

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  • Do representations of women today objectify them in the same or similar ways as what Berger argues about women depicted in Renaissance paintings? 
  • Do women have control over their images in the media or are they still determined by the male gaze? 
  • Does sexuality play the same role in images of women today as what Berger describes? 

John Berger’s “Ways of Seeing” focuses on how things are perceived. He argues that the way we see things is greatly influenced by our own knowledge and beliefs. In episode 2, he explains how from the renaissance era onward, women in art were often depicted as being subservient to men. They were deemed as nothing more than a sight, with nudity and sexuality being the main focus of many paintings and photographs, women were objectified repeatedly in these pieces. This led to their own sense of being, getting replaced by the sense of being appreciated by others. Instead of women loving themselves for who they truly are, the way they were perceived caused them to chase a fabricated image designed by a male-targeted media. Berger says “To be naked, is to be one’s self. To be nude is to be seen naked by others and yet not recognized for one’s self.”  What he means by this is that often women in art had no control in their image or how they were portrayed. I believe that’s still very true today. You can point it out in almost any magazine, movie, or even commercials, women are often sexualized to attract male viewers and to fulfill their desires. Although more recently women have been stepping up and empowering one another to get rid of this stigma, we are still a long way from it becoming reality. Modern media plays a huge part in this, from Instagram to Tik-Tok, females put content out based on what their audience (which often is made up of males) wants to see. Because of this, many women often follow suit and believe that how the media portrays women is exactly how they should portray themselves. I do think women are slowly regaining control of their own representation but, as of today, what Berger was focusing on is still very true. Women’s portrayal throughout our culture is still very male-driven.

 

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Representation’s of women today objectify them in very similar ways to what Berger argues.  Women today are put on display very similarly to how they were in the renaissance paintings even more so today I believe for example you can’t go anywhere nowadays and not see a picture of a woman on display showing off or modeling for something whether it be a clothing line or car company.  Women are constantly on display for us the spectators and they don’t choose how they would like to be portrayed.  Women did not have control over there paintings and how they were portrayed they were arranged all for the enjoyment of the audience.  Today I believe the same is true for women in commercials and advertisements don’t have any control over how there shown off.  Sexuality plays a huge role in images of women today as Berger explains how the ideal nude painting was constructed by “taking the shoulders of one body, the hands of another the breasts of another and so on.”  He calls it either humanist idealism or an indifference to who one person really was.  Photoshop and photo editing technology, we have today does the same thing on a bigger scale people still think the same way the technology has just changed.

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Do representations of women today objectify them in the same or similar ways as what Berger argues about women depicted in Renaissance paintings?

It isn’t a mystery that women across the world constantly get objectified. In the video ‘Ways of seeing’ John Berger goes back nearly a century to discuss how women were previously objectified. John states that women were viewed as exhibits to be looked at, in nude European paintings. Though in European society it was not viewed as objectifying, it was seen as art. The objectification of women in modern times shows similarities to how women were objectified in the paintings. An example of this can be seen at a well-known restaurant called hooters, where the female’s servers are in skimpy clothing. The women are meant to be displayed for viewing pleasure just like the paintings John talks about.

 

Do women have control over their images in the media or are they still determined by the male gaze?

Most can agree that throughout history the media has played a big part in how women present themselves. John states that in the paintings women had to look a certain way for them to be valued or considered beautiful. Although the issue of women having to appeal to the media image still exists, it is becoming less important. Fortunately, it is becoming widely popular for women to love their bodies the way they are. Women of all shapes and sizes are starting to have dominion over there appearance.

 

Does sexuality play the same role in images of women today as what Berger describes? 

As a kid, I never understood why if I was watching a certain show or commercial the women shown were oversexualized. John talks about how women were sexually displayed for male pleasure. In the painting, he points out the suggestive looks the women give the viewer and the seductive positioning of their bodies. John explains that these paintings were specifically designed to attract the likes of men. The sexuality of women in this era is used to do the same thing. But instead of paintings, they’re used in movies, music videos, and even video games. The entertainment industry is aware of how the male audience is attracted to women’s sexuality.

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I agree with what he says due to the fact that seeing works of art you get ideas and creativity may come to you just by seeing a work on a piece of paper, the other is with the letter of the model I agree with the devido So that you can follow it easier to read the conversions as an example netflix or another wed site with the videos it makes it easier for the viewer to understand the situation or the story In those times women were a representative of a lot of art because, as we say today, women are art, they are our women, etc. In those times women were the important basis of many of the creations that today but not only in art, we can also see it In music videos, women also give a little color to everything, basically women are an important basis for men since many things flow from inspirations watching them

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Today’s female figures are made into objects in the same or similar way as those depicted in Berger’s Renaissance paintings. Female art is the product of western postmodernism, which is related to the feminist movement, more specifically, postmodernism. Feminist theory and body philosophy are projected into artistic practice. Media plays an important role in creating social norms, because, in the current culture, there are various forms of media, including advertising, television, and movies, almost everywhere. For example, gender roles exist only because society as a whole chooses to accept them, but they are perpetuated by the media. In today’s female image, the female image is very important, adding a lot of colors.

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The way women are objectified today is somewhat similar but also not related to how people think the way Berger thinks about woman in Renaissance because women nowadays are more sexualized than being seen as an artistic form of expression. Take for example, the women models on Instagram. Most men or women would see them as a sexualized object rather as the model having an artist way of expressing themselves. Nowadays, women have more control over their images on the media. Although, some might disagree I know that people’s ways of thinking are very deeply influenced by new technology compared to Berger’s days where their thoughts come naturally from morals. This is seen heavily throughout the video as you can see he has a vision from morals and the bible which is way different than how people see things now. from videos to trends online. This is why women are objectified today in a similar fashion yet not at the same time than how Berger sees.